User blog comment:Vorknkx/Quake Wiki Archeology/@comment-1915529-20150707211711/@comment-3547390-20150708031222

Yeah, it was too early for me to remember. I probably wasn't even that aware of what was going on back then. I remember the orange, but the grey Quake logo was definitely a more remembered sight.

Hey, looking at these old versions just shows how terrible the Wikia looked before you and Toxic showed up. Sure, we were able to see how bad the content looked before, but now we can see just how terrible the site looked in general. Combine that with all the security issues and you both had a giant mess on your hands.

I remember the Quake Tournament being on this website like it was yesterday. Heh, I still recall the MSN days. I also remember when you were against the News, saying it was useless for such a small community. Honestly, I still think it useful for the big projects that are finished here.

Hahahaha, but the Nazis are Wolfenstein! I remember the Editor of the Month logo, Vorknkx ended up winning it for an entire year or something due to our lack of decent editors.

Yes, I know for a fact that the Shambler favicon was added by me. I originally had added the image for the Ranger before we discussed it and decided on the Shambler. My profile image is actually an earlier version of the same file, the main difference being that I hadn't yet made the background transparent.

Wikia has become pretty terrible in its own way as well. The top bar is pretty much agreed upon as being terrible, looking at the old search bar makes me miss it highly. I swear the new search bar isn't even that stable, I have to travel to a new page and quickly search for something in order to get to the search results page. While I can get exact results if I type it in, I can't search for a page without having to fight with the Wikia first.

Honestly, I don't know why everyone likes the changes to the margins, I am pretty sure they are tighter than they were before. Back then I would have cared about compatibility, now I just care about fixing Wikia's mess so it looks good on my computer. Somehow I think I ended up following the opposite message of what they were trying to send. They try to make me think more of other users, I end up trying to do stuff that will make it only look decent for myself after being driven into a corner by Wikia. The lesson here is that you can't force editors to be more conscious of their edits by making the site look terrible. If the problem with wide screens was so bad that so much of Wikia was incompatible with lower screen viewers and they had to change things around, why didn't they try to figure out a way to make things compatible with lower screen viewers instead of making the text larger for larger screens? Now text that looks one way on your computer looks completely different on mine, yet you call that compatibility.

You know, I also happened to be going through old messages when I first joined the Wikia. Some good memories in there too.

"I now know Auguststorm does indeed to come back at some point and so any scenario of a permanent position for you is unlikely." - Apparently this was seen as an unlikely scenario back in 2011.

"I've been busy with work lately, and have been taking a break from wikia entirely. I will likely active again within the next few weeks." - Auguststorm's reply in early 2012 about being inactive. A few weeks soon became more than three years.

"I prefer to start moving forward with wikia than just leave it ahead. When people come to the wiki, people want to read about the world of quake but when they want to edit. With the new editor I believe it's easier to understand than the old one and to keep people here we must make things easier to understand. Not everyone get wiki like us, we have experence with wikis (well me and Raadec do, not sure about you, no offense) and we get things faster than others. But we must not stay on old things so I believe having this new editor is a good idea to keep it, but first lets get an opinion on what the communty think first." - Toxic on a new editor at the time. I wonder if he would have said that we needed to be up to date with Wikia if he saw the stuff Wikia was doing today.

"That's one way to look at it, you know nothing about the other games so stay off them, haha. First lets get all pages editable please" - Toxic when I broke the Quake 3 page.

"Now being an admin comes with responsobilites. Those include dedication to the wiki with no leaves unless others have been notified." - You know, I think Emerald has broken his own rule!

"You have just restarted the poll" - My first duty as admin, ten minutes after I got promoted.

"The thing I hate the most is that bloody advert in the top right hand corner, it completely screws up the whole page. Ignoring that since we can't do anything about it..." - Wikia, 2012. We can never win!