User talk:Raadec/2010

WelcomeEditHi, welcome to QuakeWiki! Thanks for your edit to the Jorg page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- CatherineMunro (Talk) 11:54, March 11, 2010

RE: Pictures and Screenshot EditTaking quality screenshots is a simple matter of pressing the PrintScreen button on your keyboard, often near F12. This will copy your current screen to the clipboard for further revision/editing in an image manipulation program. After you save them to a file, .png format preferably, you can upload them to the site.

On the issue of uploading pictures to templates, put |image = under the name header. For example, the Plasma Gun template looks like this:

If you have any further questions, feel free to ask me or look at other articles for examples.

RE:New Background EditHey, Well I have noticed this unfortunally this is not my work while i am a design helper when it comes to info boxes, welllll i havent got a clue. I was never good when it came to scripting. i will try my best and see what i can do but i won't promise anything

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User:TeriffiedToxicTeriffiedToxic is my DF addy add thn PM =D 08:12, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

little edit Editjust made a little edit on your user page just to make it easier to follow what your on about on your fav pages.

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User:TeriffiedToxicTeriffiedToxic is my DF addy add thn PM =D 18:13, March 31, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Images EditYeah i just overwrited old pic that had no purpose to the wiki thats all really but im running out of pics to overwrite.

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User:TeriffiedToxicHelping Quake wiki for the future 08:12, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

RE: image permissions EditI'm currently looking into editing group permissions, because as of now, things are quite... scrambled. Check back on the user permissions page, hopefully I'll have them fixed soon.

RE RE RE: Images EditI know the thing about the images and i dunno what to do neither. I am still waiting for Shaleblade to do something about it because stupidly the helping team will help you if the wiki is your creation.Pointless really.

PS: thanks for the stuff about the wiki but the background was done by the helper richard but he's left now so he won't help anymore (and he really knew his stuff).

PSS:for feedback, I admit your edits are really good and since you started the wiki later thn me and shaleblade you have more edits than the adopted owner himself.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxicHelping Quake wiki for the future 13:28, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

gunbox EditHEY just finally managed to sort out the box template (gun box only at the mo) it's dark red so that should do. cheack out this page to see it.

thanks

User:TeriffiedToxicHelping Quake wiki for the future 13:44, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Lifting prohibition on creating new articles EditHey Raadec, just stumbled over this wiki a few days ago and directly made a few additions (see last 3 additions by unregistered contributor). I would really like to help contributing to this wiki even more. Therefore, I ask for permission to create new articles, would be really great.... Dorat 16:40, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

RE:Wake up call EditHey yeah i know i've been out for 2 weeks on holiday so i came back sunday and did some more stuff to the wiki.

Like the fact i've sorting out some templates like the gunboxes Monsters boxes and item boxes for nearly all the games now. did that monday.

so thx for the awakening.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxicHelping Quake wiki for the future 07:53, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

The prohibuation from making pages EditHey I've just read that the pages prohib has not been lifted so i'm gonna talk to the gameing wiki team and see what they can do okay

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User:TeriffiedToxicHelping Quake wiki for the future 07:56, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE EditYeah I guess it couldn't really hurt allthough i have contacted richard who helped me on my other wiki (I did not do that background he did) so he might an assist.

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:52, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Also EditAlso when you asked Shaleblade to make you a burocrat all that means is that you can make people in to Admins and stuff.

And could you make me one since my name is on the main page and it would be easier to make people admins since i've been doing it for a while.

Thanks

TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:57, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

Templates EditHey well i've finished colouring the templates go and have a look on the gun pages monster pages and item pages

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 10:55, April 21, 2010 (UTC)

RE:renaming Editwelll i haven't tried that before might check the help pages to see if it's possible

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 07:46, April 23, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page icon links Edithey raadec, I noticed that the four links (next to the icons) on the main page only link to the corresponding games. How about creating a category page for each one, where one can chose between characters, enemies, weapons etc. of each game? Dorat 10:27, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

As you may have noticed, I have already started creating a Quake 4 category page in order to create a central page for access to all Quake 4-related articles. However, I have been browsing through other wikias and found that creating a Portal page like it's used on Memory Alpha (the Star Trek wiki,see here). As I'm not very experienced in creating such things, I would like ask if you or another sysop could help me in creating such a Portal Page and adding all the pages to it. Dorat 00:00, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

pages EditThat great news also I have done a little edit to the nav bar see it

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 12:34, April 24, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page EditWould it be possible to unlock the main page, at least temporarily? Auguststorm1945 19:40, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Color changed. Auguststorm1945 23:29, April 27, 2010 (UTC) RE: New User EditWell to be honest I think it looks great the colour i will sort out but info you can do.

Also what do you think of the Weapons of Quake on the sidebar.

Thanks

TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:17, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

PS: I have made the Template:Infobox Using the one from my wiki so you can have a proper infobox

RE: Mainpage EditThe sidebar:

Thanks for the comment the Blog post's and Quake 4 Picture appeared out of nowhere. I will try to remove them.

The Logo:

The logo was only a tester. I will go ahead and revert it to it's original image.

Thanks

TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:43, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Various EditFirst off, the Main Page is likely to change as the wiki grows, possibly several times; so, by all means, we should try your redesign for it, and see how it works out.

Second, I would like to inquire about administration rights. I realize I've been here only a short time, and I've only done some editing on certain groupings of pages. However, I have some experience with wiki editing and utilizing administrative rights that I believe could further improve the wiki overall. That said, if such is not available at this time or is contrary to the general opinion of current administrators, I completely understand.

Also, I've taken the liberty of moving a number of pages - moving Sgt. Dell Morris to Dell Morris, for example. The reason I cut ranks out of article names pertaining to characters is that the rank itself is not part of the name of the individual and that characters' ranks change. For instance, until recently, there existed two articles for Morris: the above Sgt. Dell Morris and Cpl. Dell Morris. It's simply less complicated and less prone to confusion.

I also created a number of rank pages (here); all, save specialist, are directly mentioned in Quake 4.

Regarding specialist, medic and tech are not ranks (Consider PFC. Anderson and Cpl. Strauss); therefore, such marines are specialists, equal in rank to privates, though with possibility for promotion to higher positions. Currently, I have the ranks utilizing only ranks mentioned (beyond specialists, anyway). As a result, the following ranks are not included: Gunnery Sergeant, Master Gunnery Sergeant, Sergeant Major, Major, and Lieutenant Colonel. Also of note, as no specifics regarding the rankings of generals, I have not included Brigadier General, Major General, and Lieutenant General. I myself am in favor of creating pages for Gunnery Sergeant, Master Gunner Sergeant, Major, and Lieutenant Colonel; beyond that would be significant extrapolation. To avoid confusion with the Quake 2 medics, I opted for "Marine Corpsman". As Hospital Corpsmen have been the traditional medics who are integrated into marine units, I believed corpsman to be appropriate - the addition of Marine was both to differentiate Marine Corps medics from Naval Ratings. Similarly, I opted for "Marine Technician", again to avoid confusion with the Technician.

In short, a number of questions and explanations. Auguststorm1945 21:51, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Previous edit Edithi, right I like your idea about the Mainpage i think it would suit the wikia quite well, Although we might as well keep the poll.

I'm not sure whats wrong with the Quake 3 Bots page but that page shall be my responsibillity since I know most about Quake 3 Arena/Team Arena

I do think we should wait a little while before making auguststorm a admin because I not sure. I dunno it's just a little tickle that he might ruin the wiki. I think we should wait and see and watch his edits okay. Also to be honest I think there is no point in calling Shaleblade because I have not heard from him in ages and he does not reply to my enquires.

Extra: I have watched some of the Quake 2 Videos and I think I will do some on quake 3 Arena since I have that game. It will be a while maybe a week before i start making them but I think it might help people alot.

Thanks

TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 08:26, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

hey I have sorted things out With Auguststorm and I now trust him. I think we can make him a admin TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:21, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

StuffEditI have sorted things out with Auguststorm so I think we should make him a Sysop

For the template I meant the Gunboxes and stuff not the mainpage. When it comes to that i'm clueless lol.

TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 17:29, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

also what do you think about my idea on quake 3 Arena help videos. I would like to do it

Re: New Admin EditMy apologies for the tardiness. Considering his quantity (and quality) of contributions; he seems adequately responsible. I am in favor.

--Shaleblade 01:38, May 3, 2010 (UTC)

Quake 2 Video EditHey raadec I have been adding bits to you Quake 2 Video and have competed unit 2 and 3 for you. Would you like me to continue or would you like me to leave it.

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 12:31, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

RE: something EditYour welcome to the help although i've checked the guys youtube channel and he's only got to Unit 8 so you will have to wait a while.

The PollEdit I guess it does not suit the main page I will make a seperate page for it and put it somewhere.

The Front Page IconsEdit Are you changing them to your own design or reverting them if you are can I see what your replacing them with before you do it

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:18, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Game Logos EditOkay Great. Can't wait to see what you come out with also done The Page Of Polls(The is a personal poll on there to stop a argument between me and someone else)

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:34, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Link logos EditWell heres one thing. I like them. I like them a lot. I will upload them to the page now

Great work

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 12:28, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I have done Quake 4 for you in you design Editing EditA few rather important things -

Do you use the Rich Text Editor? There is no real political way to ask, so I will simply ask: how much experience do you have editing with Wikis? It's a legitimate question, as background with certain things can be very, very useful. Do you use American English or British English? My apologies if these are poorly written or intrusive; if you do not wish to answer some or any, I completely understand and apologize for the interruption.

I will get back to you regarding the standards and whatnot. Auguststorm1945 19:09, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

DISABLE RICH TEXT EDITOR Go to upper left, and select the button entitled MORE. Highlight and select Preferences. Go to the tab labeled Editing. The first item (at the top of the list) will be titled Enable Rich Text Editing; deselect the box. If you have done so properly, the list will expand to include numerous options. Select Save. Rich text editor should be disabled now - you'll be able to edit in code view. Simply put, you'll be able to see what I can see. Your difficulty with the Template:Header on the main page is likely due to not being able to see the header template and edit it with ease, as a result of the rich text editor. This should help significantly. Auguststorm1945 19:56, May 6, 2010 (UTC) On the Subject of Experience EditA little while earlier, I was rather...annoyed (slight understatement); I hope you'll forgive me my brief animosity. Also, regarding rich text editor, I dislike it. Significantly. More a hindrance than a help, that thing is. Anyway, concerning experience with wikis, the longer you edit, the more you tend to find out. I certainly have. I can give a description of my Wiki experience and current areas of revision, if you'd like. Auguststorm1945 20:10, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Team Arena EditHey Raadec just made the Quake 3 Team Arena page. Gonna need some help on How to lay it out. All the info is there including the confusing Armor regen(check out the Q3A talk page if you don't know what i'm on about).

Extra: If you do get the Quake live Download working give us a bell It's BrandyBuB.

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 14:56, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: idea EditI will get right on it just gotta check if they have pages yet

Also don't forget to do Quake 2 Video

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 16:53, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

RE: idea#2 EditI like your idea Raadec just send us a invite. My addy is Toxic_avenger666@hotmail.co.uk.

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TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 19:32, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE: thank you EditAlways nice to hear that! By the way, what about creating a portal page for each game? Personally I'm quite inexperienced at thing like that, but I have looked around other wikis and found something according in the Technology Portal on Memory Alpha. As I already said, I'm not experienced at creating such, so it would be nice if you or another admin could do that.

Dorat 00:18, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Quake 3 Bots EditNo there was no plan on having a page on each bot. In fact if you look at Orbb I have taken the original description and put it on the page, removing The Orbb page in the process

I will do that for each bot. Just have a look at what i've done so far

Box 1 and 2 on the Main page EditHey Raadec, I've made a little edit to the Boxes at the front page and changed colours to a More QuakeWiki look. I've left the box info the same and the layout. I've just changed the colour. Hope you like it.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 17:59, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE: questionEditWell, I am trying to look up the correct health, but I couldn't find it. So, I go on Ground Zero, and look up the damage amount on a weapon, and use it on an enemy, then I see how much damage it can create to this enemy. Although I can't get the correct amount. Thanks for your question, I don't really have the Reckoning, got any idea how I can get it? Thank you! --Doctor Hax 23:14, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Quake 3 Arena Vids EditHey raadec made a start on those vids now will finish those up to tier 4 then having a break because continuing vids constantly gets boring so check out what i've got so far. Remember its on Bring it on and i am not wonderful at it lol.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 11:50, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Cheats EditI get the point I just didn't think cheats will be good but by the look of the Poll I guess we have to. You go ahead and rename also don't forget to change the info.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 07:49, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Cheats EditI get the point I just didn't think cheats will be good but by the look of the Poll I guess we have to. You go ahead and rename also don't forget to change the info.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 07:50, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Cheats EditI get the point I just didn't think cheats will be good but by the look of the Poll I guess we have to. You go ahead and rename also don't forget to change the info.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 07:50, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Cheats EditI get the point I just didn't think cheats will be good but by the look of the Poll I guess we have to. You go ahead and rename also don't forget to change the info.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 07:51, June 11, 2010 (UTC)

Front page poll EditYou seen the front page poll. So many people think it needs changing. Who should change it me or you because Shaleblade designed the last one and i've had no word from him in ages so gives us a bell if you or me should design.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 20:20, June 13, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Logo and Background EditOkay logos fine although i still thinks it looks like Regeneration. And the background if you come with ideas I will try my best but I don't know what to do so I better start learning.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 12:39, June 14, 2010 (UTC)

Skin EditWell I have being having a bit of learning and practice and I have managed to come up with a Little beta skin. Check it out Here

Give me some feedback on it.

Thanks

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 11:57, June 16, 2010 (UTC)

Quake 2 ending EditIn his ending He actually survives the battle with Makron, He escapes in a Strogg escape pod. Quake III arena is just a spin-off, The game itself, dont even have a story.(Its like Turok: Rage Wars, a multiplayer game witch every event din't really happen.)

error EditOps! sorry I will correct that!

Sabbatical EditI am currently out of state at this time. I'll do what I can as per your request, but it may definitely be delayed. As for squad pages - we already have those. Did you mean one page for all the squads, and a page for all members of the Space Marine Corps? I will remove the redlinks from the current pages, however. Auguststorm1945 17:40, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar EditHey, Managed to change the sidebar colour to white at long last. I think i'm Getting the hang of Monaco now

=D

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 09:22, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Logo EditJust Designed a new logo tell us what you think. Not perfect Added by TeriffiedToxic

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10:51, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Background EditHey, I've set the new background, it may take a while to set so tell me what you think of it so far.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 10:54, June 28, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Merge with QuakeLiveWiki EditWell I'm not sure to be honest. This wiki is about everything to do with Quake and since Quake live was released by Id Software I think we should keep the page. People come to our wiki expecting to find out about Quake and if they come for Quake live info it would be easier to get a lay down from us and for more info go on the Official Wik do you think so? If you think Differently please tell me why

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 12:05, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Merge with QuakeLiveWiki EditOkay then we should form the friendship. Although your right there is no point to Quake Live wiki but what the hell we will leave tigernose to do what he wants.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 11:11, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah we might as well make a page for all quake 3 maps. but we should do pages for the others as well

RE: on what you said EditRight the link is up. Also checked out the poll and I think this Background is the one with 4 people saying perfect! =D

User:TeriffiedToxic Q3A is great 07:55, July 2, 2010 (UTC)

Monaco.css EditHey, tis me again, just saying check out the Monaco on the wiki now i've managed to add a background image. What do you think?

User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 08:55, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Quake 4 squads Edithey well to be honest I like the idea of all squads having a page it's better than having one page for each soilder don't you think.

User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 00:53, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

Edit: The reason I cahnged he background is because my m8 said it was shit. So he suggested a Rusty Metal type colour and this is what I found what do you think of it and also the new picture. User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki RE: Users EditRighttt I will put a message up and if the unknown edits don't stop we will protect every page from unregesterd users

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User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 08:10, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

Hey EditHey, it's nice to see your back. Things have been running smoovly with hardly no probs. Also have you seen the poll for the bg.

And that i'm enquiring to wikia to figure out how to do gradients

Nice to see you!

User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 14:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Widgets EditHey, I've just done some edits to the background and now the sideboxes have a grey background instead of a White background. What do you think and also what other things should I 'Attemp' to sort out.

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User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 08:33, September 10, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Poll EditHey, I know this is not the best reason but it's true. I put that poll up because I feel i'm the only active admin here. I have not seen a single edit from you in a very long time. I can't do this wiki myself, there is simply too much to do. I need another admin to do welcoming and edit checks while i'm sorting out the programming. I do hope you understand.

I't just what I think

User:TeriffiedToxic Helping Wiki 07:47, September 24, 2010 (UTC)

Redirects EditI don't know if this has been covered, and if so my apologies, but what exactly do you have against Redirects? They certainly aren't useless, as you have previously told me. A redirect is created every time an article is moved - so that we don't have to go back and fix every single article that previous linked to that article. If you insist on this, I'll go ahead and fix those aforementioned links, but I cannot promise to be so accommodating in the future. Auguststorm1945 16:09, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Squads EditThese pages already exist, and can be found here. Also, the page for Rhino Squad already exists. Auguststorm1945 16:11, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wiki Comtributers EditHey raadec, I have a idea to get rid of all our problems with unregersted users. From now on we shall protect all pages from new and unregersted users. This should stop troublesome people like that spanish dude.

What do ya tink?

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 08:28, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Background EditHey, just design the new wikia look design what do you think?

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 20:36, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Recent Activity Box EditHey, Right the box is on the main page now. Took me a while but I figured how to do it by looking at what august did so long ago and nicked it lol.

Check It Out!

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 19:53, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Recent Activity Box EditHey, Right the box is on the main page now. Took me a while but I figured how to do it by looking at what august did so long ago and nicked it lol.

Check It Out!

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 19:53, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

No, in fact you should get rid of it.

Hey remember me? Well I guess that doesn't really matter.

I just wanted to let you know that I started my own website and I want to invite you to join and be member because I respect your knoledge of quake and would make a good member, moderator, or even administrator on my website. Here's the link. It's free to join and it may not be much now but I'll improve the site soon.

So I would really appreciate it if you would become a member of my site. It's pretty new so there aren't many members yet.

Hey :) EditHello, I am just leaving this to mention that I have edited, or more aptly significantly added to the Stroggos page and have put in some serious mental effort into thinking about the Strogg and their structure.

I just thought you might want to take a look at my thoughts RE Strogg society and how it might work. I know, I am a nerd at heart who thinks about these things far too much xD. I also noticed the section on society on the Strogg page is somewhat brief so I hope some of my ideas might be useful to you. Of course if they are flawed (and I fully accept they might well be) feel free to delete them etc.

Further, I note you are a fellow Brit (I am from the East Midlands myself though :D) and that you also appreciate the musical genius of Trent Reznor and Rammstein! :D

Hope all is well,

Slock :) Slocky60 02:09, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Re:History Edithey, you could do what August said or you could click Wiki Activity at the top right-hand side of any page. This gives you a full wiki history like myhome.

Hope it helps

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 20:37, November 21, 2010 (UTC)

bittermen EditHey, you the Bitterman page. According to that, quake 3 is completely non-canon and the events of quake 3 never took place in the quake universe. Is this true? I heard that quake 3 takes place in another universe where the vadrigar take warriors from several warriors from other id universes to fight in the Arena Eternal.

Thanks EditThanks for the info.

The123Hammer 00:45, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page EditGiven that the main page in its current form is both illegible and confusing, I'd like to know what was wrong with the changes I made. Yes, I'm a little bit ticked. You do recall that this is the second time you've simply reverted my edits on the main page? I can't say I appreciate it. So. What's wrong with my version and what warranted the immediate undo? Auguststorm1945 23:39, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for my rather...hostile response. I appreciate you endeavoring to make right as much as possible. Now, I'm not sure what your difficulties with my version were - just trying to clarify: Appears "bunched up" - cluttered, or too busy? Too much taken up by the Help Pages Not enough about Updates Too many sections Well, in regards to the Help Pages section - You've been at this for a while, as have I, as has Shaleblade and TeriffiedToxic. However, if we want the community to expand, we have to be as welcoming to new users as possible (the help page section is pretty standard - it's on almost every single Wiki I've contributed on, including the big ones) and having the help pages easily available makes that much easier. As for updates - some well-established Wikis (i.e. Halopedia, Wookieepedia) have Featured Articles and "Quotes of the Day" and the like, as well as often-updated news sections. However, all of that includes major community input and assistance, something that we are definitely lacking. Also, setting those up takes some practice. Also, the section for forums - that is the mainstay of community discussion, something that has been all but nonexistent so far. At any rate, thanks for listening; hopefully we'll get things running smoother in the future. Auguststorm1945 17:48, December 3, 2010 (UTC) Logo EditAt this time, I can't help you there. I'll see what I can do, though. Auguststorm1945 23:41, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

Problems EditWhat exactly do you want changed? It was "broken" this morning and I fixed it then. Now, apparently, you have "broken" it in exactly the same way it was this morning. I need to know so I can fix it. Also, are you still using Rich Text editor? Auguststorm1945 21:46, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Go to your preferences, select "editing", and un-check the box Enable section editing by right clicking on section titles (JavaScript). Second, please don't delete the history bit, when it was created and who the administrators are. It makes everyone's life easier, believe me. And "rebirth" isn't exactly appropriate, nor is "behind the scenes". Is there anything particular you would like included? Auguststorm1945 21:57, December 3, 2010 (UTC) Also, the rebirth/relaunch is already featured on the "news" section. Auguststorm1945 21:59, December 3, 2010 (UTC) If you're not already, start using Preview. Also, I'm willing to help with whatever you're trying - just ask. Auguststorm1945 22:20, December 3, 2010 (UTC) Main Page Sections EditThe whole intro about the founder allows me to neatly tie in who the current administrators are. Speaking of which - I am strongly against removing the forum box, especially for something as trivial as listing the administrators a second time. And you show know, no offense, that administrators are not owners.

As for the create article button - it has guidelines, suggestions, and valuable information right next to it already. Why displace the Games banner?

On news, though, what did you have in mind? Auguststorm1945 22:35, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Administration EditNo Administrator, regardless of whether they are a bureaucrat or a founder, owns a wiki. Neither I, nor you, nor Shaleblade, nor TeriffiedTox, nor even Wolf2Hexen, own this wiki. We can write policies, we can protect pages or delete them, but we not in charge.

"The ideal admin is just someone who is trusted to have a few extra buttons and to use them for the benefit of the Wikia community." — Administration The above is the same on almost every single wiki, as part of default pages hardwired into them. I'm not condemning the current administration of Quake Wiki - I think we are doing quite well, and have vastly improved it. I believe someone summed it up as "an administrator should be more an executor of the community's will, and less the guiding hand of that will." Auguststorm1945 23:25, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Forums EditThe forums are the meeting place for the community - everyone is encouraged to contribute there. In my experience, wikis that posses, use, and have active forums prosper far more than those wikis that do not use their forums (and in one rather unfortunate case, didn't have). As for why they are better than talk pages: lets say I want to follow a discourse between three users. If I depend on user talk pages, I'll have three different pages to look at - hopefully everybody signed their posts (In case you've never done that extensively - it is an incredible pain that takes much searching through page histories). Forums are simply easier.

As for why to put it on the main page:

It's convenient; Visitors can easily see what topics the community is discussing. It provides the needed link to get to the forums in the first place. And to answer your question, yes, it does update for new forum posts. It's part of my recent slant towards building communities. We have a handful of active users here, and while that is good, we can do far better. A forum encourages community interaction and participation, as well as community growth. Auguststorm1945 23:26, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Help EditI can trim some items out and make it smaller, yes. As for a smaller box, I'll look into it, but it's not an immediate priority for me (I've got a project or two of sorts in the works). But as with my previous message, it's all about encouraging new users to contribute. As someone who made some major mistakes as a new user (My, that's a while ago! How time flies.) that were kindly tolerated, fixed, and explained to me by other users, I am all for giving newbies all the help I can (and letting them in on mistakes I've made myself). Auguststorm1945 23:26, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

What the hell! EditFor a start would you like to tell me what the hell has been going on and why no one notified me???

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 14:08, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

RE: RE: EditHey, Just to say I have been active And I'd like to share the point on the layout of the front page. You remeber Quake live wiki right, the complete fail of a wiki. Well I do beleive i looks alot like that front page don't you think. I also sorry for getting annoyed but you can't blame me. It was a complete shock to see what had happened and had not had any notification. So sorry about that.

The reason I haven't answered back about the logo is that I haven't had much time due to problems like which I told you I had. On that note, The logo well I don't like it(saying that my replacement is crap also with the white BG), It really doesn't suit the wiki as it has a background. No-no-no on the background. It has to be transparent so it will suit the wiki no matter what we do to it. Don't worry about the wiki logo. I'll get it sorted.

Thanks again and sorry

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 14:06, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Mainpage EditI took a look at it with rich text editor. Do me a favor, please. Either disable rich text like I asked, or never edit the main page again. I'm not going to fix it every other day. Broken the same way as last time. And the time before that. It has nothing to do with the way I changed it. Also, USE PREVIEW! Auguststorm1945 17:27, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Extrapolation EditYou're right. It was rather hostile. The message was supposed to be received as I'm tired of trying to fix the main page after you edit it over and over. It's simply that.

As for utilizing other Wikis - I already do that. I'm willing to look at whatever you like, but you should know that what I've done so far, I've done because that's what I know how to do. I'm not saying I couldn't integrate the elements you want or the layouts you favor. I'm saying that some of it may well be beyond me.

Also, one of the possible issues, I've noticed that when you edit you change this to this. And that when I revert just that or simply remove it, the problems you seem to be having just...go away.

A few reasons why I've been increasingly hostile:

I'm under significant stress, both with work, training, and my various projects. When I mentioned projects before, I didn't mean just here. We seem to differ on word choice. "Rebirth" just feels inappropriate, to the point that I'm actually put off editing any time I come across it. Strange? yes. Major issue? no. I like using forums, and have seen them used effectively in the past; so far, both you and toxic have been...unreceptive to using them or in encouraging their use. Toxic seems annoyed that he 'wasted a lot of time' finding out how to do something I knew how to do. While I realize that I could have done it faster, I should point out that I have spent quite a bit of time figuring out how to do things in the first place. The whole process usually makes one a better editor. A lot of the templates are very red, which, with green links, frankly looks like Christmas. Our community, despite intervals of new contributors, has actually decreased. We're in trouble, and it feels like I'm the only one who cares about that. The Quake 3 bots - We had a poll for keeping several pages or deleting them. I didn't notice. Had it gone the other way, given our tiny little community, would you have up and deleted all those pages? That's why I like forums - it allows discussion. Quake 3 vs Quake III, Quake 2 versus Quake II. Everywhere I look, it is, without fail, referred to as Quake II, Quake III, and Quake IV. The whole "behind the scenes" bit. There is no "behind the scenes" here. Actually does bother me quite a bit. Ownership. Statements like "I am co-owner of QuakeWiki, along with TerrifiedToxic" and signing your posts as "Raadec - Administrator and Co-Owner, I own you >:-)" is simply inappropriate. The latter doesn't encourage contributors to our cause, too. Part of the reason this is a big deal for me is I have had the extreme displeasure to work with an Administrator who believe he is the "head administrator", desysoping other Admins for disagreeing, banning people for the same reason, protecting pages for no reason beyond reversing what he thinks he right, and banning people excessively, i.e. for more than a thousand years. He also disregards policies and doesn't bother writing them out - but if you break his "unwritten law" he'll ban you anyway. He is an example for the worst administrator I've ever encountered. So ownership stuff tends to bother me, quite a bit. I read Wikia policy, as should any administrator. I've seen Wikis destroy themselves, and I try to avoid going in that direction. If some of the things I do seem abstract, feel free to ask about them; there is assuredly a reason behind them. Also, each time you asked me to "fix" the main page, you interrupted me while I was in the midst of significant projects; you couldn't have known that, but still, it poor timing. Also, the history piece. Please stop deleting that. It took a while, it's convenient, and it's organized. It's based on several existing Wikis, too. At any rate, I hope this information helps clarify some things. Auguststorm1945 19:47, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Your talk page appears to dislike so I've moved it. Auguststorm1945 19:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC) Redesign EditWhile the multi-column idea is alright (I assume you utilized the mainpage-rightcolumn with col-begin, etc), I still have significant difficulty reading the green links against that shade of gray. Question - is a preference for the gray background or the layout? And thanks. Auguststorm1945 22:05, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

I like it. TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 09:08, December 6, 2010 (UTC) Wordmark EditHey, well first of, no offence but the wordmark is kinda well meh. The green writing really doesn't work and you put quake wiki twice. Sorry but it really doesn't work. I know my white background was crap but that really isn't the quake wiki wordmark we need. Don't worry though, i'm going to draw up my own and upload it if it will let me. The things is that the writing should be white at least and maybe not a picture. If you do have writing you should experiment with the font, there shouldn't be a boring old font on it.

Don't worry i'l get it sorted.

TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 10:18, December 6, 2010 (UTC)

Here upload this one as I can't: My design. Can you see the quake colours Added by TeriffiedToxic

Thanks TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 13:04, December 6, 2010 (UTC)