Thread:BiggestQuakefanEver/@comment-3547390-20120420060047/@comment-3547390-20120422072025

Thanks for the specificiation, that is what I was trying to figure out.

Silver Door - Door you unlock with Silver Key. I believe that is the one with the logo you mentioned. If you walk up to this door first, instead of going to the Pentagrammed Door, you will get a message saying you need the Silver Key. What this also does is spawn in the Ogre later after picking up the key and heading back to the Silver Door. It is a glich found in the game that makes the Ogre not spawn, easily solved by going the way mentioned first.

Okay, back to the Scrag issue. That is an odd issue, as all 3 Scrags should start with the game (don't need to be spawned or anything). I am surprised there is even a spawn box for it. We might be able to solve this problem though, but first I need to know the exact scrag (which you say has shifted). On subsequent playthroughs, does it go back to the original non-working one or the new one? There is a scrag patrolling the bridge, one in the corner above the secret in the water, and one at the opposite side of the room (both close to form sentries in front of the door to the Silver Door.

To make it easier, try to pull up the console and type in NoTarget while in a singleplayer game. Go to that room, this should make it easier to tell which one specifically is missing every time. We have it narrowed to three, but don't want to get something like this mixed up during the fixing up process.