Thread:Deathstalker666/@comment-1496755-20151218124612/@comment-3547390-20151220071007

I am glad you fully understand the ridiculousness of Wikia's compatibility in regards to us. Quake is indeed a PC game, the only benefit to going on the phone would be because you didn't want to lower the window or something. While that makes sense, it is indeed possible to see the text on these pages, if in a lower quality than what we intended. Compatibility that doesn't lower the quality for everyone else would be fine, but if it comes down to compatibility versus quality on PC I don't exactly see why our focus shouldn't be on the latter, since that is our primary audience and ensures that one medium gets quite a good quality while the rest get the content they need.

Compatibility by ruining pages is not good, it just makes it more of a deterrent to work on things. Look at the disaster earlier this year. We didn't even want to play with the Wikia while the incident was occurring since it was such a mess, the only reason we even bother editing was due to custom fixes to the CSS. As I am using a very custom view of the Wikia and have been responsible for certain avenues of the Quake 1 content, we end up possibly with more of a mess than before said "fixes". I don't think anything is negatively affected, but the fact remains that by me using a widescreen view that I am seeing things completely different from everyone else since I could not make the changes to the CSS overall. By preventing me from making certain fixes, you just make me fix it for myself, which means everyone else gets possibly a lower quality than ideal. As I said in my blog post about all of this, by trying to improve compatibility you made this Wikia have less compatibility than before.

The good news is that an infobox isn't as widespread as the changes before. The bad news is that we have no idea how to customize it, have no resources to figure out how to do such beyond a lot of unnecessary experimentation, and doesn't really have many benefits. The main benefit that I can see is that theme location, we could basically make one template and just change the color instead of having four templates. However, this isn't really that great of a benefit when template pages aren't really made for the general public, so cleanliness isn't an issue, and we don't need to change around stuff on it often. It also is a lot easier to read and add new variables, but it is pretty easy to rename the three variables to add a new line. Even if we learned how to do customizations, as I said it seems like the CSS is all classes specifically set up by the Wikia, meaning we probably will lose a lot of our ability to customize beyond the select few ways Wikia will allow us to do such. I just don't see the worth of sacrificing customizability or having to relearn how to make an infobox, when the only benefits are supposed compatibility and an easier time altering said templates (As I always have believed, the page should be the clean looking part, not the editing portion behind the scenes. This goes double for templates that nobody but a regular Wikia member should be editing).

If I wasn't so lazy, I would tighten security on a lot of areas, basically preventing non-registered editors from editing much beyond pages and limit more areas to just admins. The thing is, with such a small community as I stated at the beginning, we don't exactly need to bother with such. As far as I am concerned, only a select few should be touching templates and even categories, those that know what they are doing and what the focus on the Wikia is. That unregistered user that changed the navigation box a little while back to add console port stuff was doing something they should probably not be touching to add stuff in the wrong spots on the Wikia. Everything Quake related has a place here, the thing is that people need to learn where said places are. The problem is that it is hard to explain to people, especially if you aren't bothering with it yourself at the moment and it is possibly involving something you haven't outlined yet. It is like trying to make a house and somebody trying to put a roof on it while you are trying to make the walls. It might stay on top if the walls are sturdy enough, but most likely it will topple. As the walls haven't been created, we don't have any idea how large to make said roof and coming to ask me will therefore be pretty fruitless. Really it comes down to either patience for said new avenues, or if they are impatient they should really examine the structure to the point that they have a pretty good idea of a roof that won't topple. Coming into a construction zone and building a roof on your first day is not a smart idea.