User talk:Auguststorm1945/2010

User Talk for 2010.

Welcome
Hi, welcome to QuakeWiki! Thanks for your edit to the Template:Q4 wep page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Raadec (Talk) 19:05, April 27, 2010

Unlocking
Sure, if you have an idea on how to improve it. What do you want to do? -- Raadec 19:49, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Changing the general layout and using a few tools I know of to improve it; I realize that's not very specific, but if something goes wrong with it, undo can restore the page. Auguststorm1945 19:52, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll unlock it now for you, any help is welcomes i guess. Doesn't hurt to try. -- Raadec 19:55, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Modified Main Page is up. Auguststorm1945 20:56, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

It's a good start, but the color scheme is a bit out. Would you be able to change it to suit the Wikia's color scheme, and the font? We'll keep this layout for a while and see how it goes before deciding to change it back or not. Thanks for your help. -- Raadec 21:06, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * What colors would you prefer? (I avoided the orange due to visibility of links.) Also, font changed. Auguststorm1945 21:13, April 27, 2010 (UTC)

Color
First off, the font is now fine, thanks for that. I'm not a expert at the cosmetic side of these Wikias but can you get a dark red color for the boxes? That will be rather good for now. -- Raadec 23:23, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * p.s.: l've looked at your appraisal and I completely agree with it. As I've said before, a couple of months ago, QuakeWiki was dead and that's why I joined up and its coming along nicely ever since. As with any rebirth, it'll take time and effort from the community as a whole. -- Raadec 23:23, April 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * EDIT: Can you use my talk page to contact me. Just makes it easier for me to know who is trying to get hold of me and I'll be able to reply much quicker. Thanks. -- Raadec

RE 1
That's better, thank you.

RE 2
Hey I like your edits on the main page and think you could really help us with this wiki.

I Would like you to edit them boxes on the main pages so it looks like the sidebar like the title being the red colour and the info being this colour:2F0600.

Thanks. -- TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:28, April 28, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 2
I've been thinking about our new main page and I have a few ideas to further improve it. Go to my user page and look at my idea. It is going a step backwards from your design but I hope it picks out the best points from both designs. Tell me if you agree. -- Raadec 15:18, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Various
It's true that many aspects of QuakeWiki will change over time to further improve it, like the mainpage.

Regarding your administrator request, there's no doubt you have improved this Wikia in the short time you've been with us. I will forward your request to QuakeWiki's adopter, Shaleblade. -- Raadec 07:32, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Clarifications
I have no reasons in why you may ruin the wiki but the thing is I had a Previous wiki before the Dark Crusade wiki and one person came to my wiki and made some improvements(like you did) and then he asked to become a Admin. Of course i obliged and made him one. A week later the wiki was ruined beyond repair and i had to remove it. The thing is I do not want the same to this wiki since it is going through a rebirth.

I hope your not offended at the fact I don't trust you I just don't want it to happen again.

I hope you understand, Thanks. TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 08:42, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * EDIT: To be honest I'm not totally sure how he did it but everything was there one minute then poof every bit of info gone. No pictures no templates everything i did was gone and also the default things the things that you can't make or remove gone. TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 08:51, April 30, 2010 (UTC)


 * No not that one that was my second wiki. The one I am on about i cannot remember the name and I had a different account. TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:10, April 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * No It is alright I will say to Raadec I think you will be good enough for adminship.TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 09:19, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Admin I
I have read your little chat with Toxic and now he thinks you will be OK as an admin. I have no worry about you but I’m sure you can understand Toxic’s worry with new comers.

Because Toxic has said “I now trust him. I think we can make him an admin” and I have no worry at this time, I will make you a Sysop sometime tomorrow once I get an absolute decision from Toxic.

I'm sure you understand the lengthy procedure in choosing an admin. -- Raadec 21:22, April 30, 2010 (UTC)

Admin II
Hey, You are now a Sysop. Gratz. I'm sure you understand that deciding a new Admin can never be taken lightly. I look forward to your continued work on QuakeWiki. -- Raadec 21:08, May 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sidebar
I like your idea with the sidebar and think it would work great. Also when you were editing did you see them line things after the links with a different word after it. That was there because when it says Eg:Rocket Launcher (Q3) it is kinda obvious it is from quake 3 because you hover your mouse over Quake 3 Arena and see the weapons. If you put Rocket Launcher it looks more professional. Okay; Thanks. TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 17:31, May 2, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 3
Hey I have received a request from Raadec that he wants the main page being resumed back to its former way. You know with the boxes at either side of each other. I would do this but cannot since I do not know how. Thanks. TeriffiedToxic The Wiki is alive, ALIVE 13:03, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Advice
I noticed you put a wiki standards message on Makron (Q2). Can you tell me what is wrong with it to help me avoid the same problems in the future. Regards, -- Raadec 19:04, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Q&A
Not at all, you have proved your self as something of an expert regarding Wikia and I'll be glad to comply. Raadec 19:38, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) I don't know what Rich Text is. Most the time I just write on the Wikia but will use Word if the Wikia is acting slow.
 * 2) Apart from maybe the odd 1 or 2 edits over the past few years, I have no experience before QuakeWiki writing Wikias. QuakeWiki is my first proper Wikia. I think one of the main reasons I got the Admin position here is because I know Quake inside out back to front. The term I think they use is "shit-loads" :) I'm learning my way around a Wiki as I head this Wikia with Toxic and Shale.
 * 3) British English

List
No that's ok, I can tell from your work with us how much experience you have. But a list of Wikias you've worked on would be enough. Regarding Rich Text, I have very little experience with HTML, so I think I'll stick with Rich Text. I am always thinking how to make this Wiki better and there's no need to complicate. I might consider it in the near future. -- Raadec 20:27, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Little thing
On the Quake page in the Apperances page, there is a link to the catagory page for Episodes. I can't work those templates too good so could you change the link to the new Episdoes of Quake page I made. Thank you. Raadec 11:26, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

Catch up/Page clean up
Hey, just checking to see how you are since you haven't done anything. I am woundering if you can check my Makron (Q2) page. I've finally cleaned it up and maybe you'll see it fit to take that message off the top of the page. I ask you since you seem to know more about what makes a good page. Thanks. Raadec 09:31, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Hello
Whilst I'm fine with your absence, I do have a request since you are the Quake 4 guy of us lot. I am currently deleting all the useless pages and had an idea. Can you make pages for the different squads and put all the members from each squad on one page? Giving only the main characters their own page. This is avoid pathetic pages talking about minor characters with only one sentance in them. In your own time, but don't take too long mate. Raadec 18:00, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Re:[Rhino]
I want a page for Rhyno Squad (because their the main guys from the game)  but every other squad can share a page

And each squad will list their members. At the moment, someone has created a page for every single marine and its just pointless. Voss and Kane should get their own pages since their main characters but the rest of Rhyno members can go on the Rhyno page.

There is no rush so do it in your own time. Thanks. Raadec 18:33, June 21, 2010 (UTC)

Re [Redirects]
Hey; I accept that redirects are good, sorry if i made it out that i did not think such in the past.

Thank you for your work. Are you staying with us for sometime now? Only Toxic feels there is need for a new admin as I am not always here and you even less than me. I am trying to find more time for here and with you popping in and out, we should probably have no need for an extra admin.

Do not feel as if we are forcing you to stay, it is something you can do when or whenever you want. I only ask because it'll help me and Toxic to decide whether we should get someone else in. Your admin position will be here until the day you decide it not to be. -- Raadec 21:10, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

A Job [Recent Activities]
Hey August, I got a job for you. Could you put a recent activity box on the front page where i've put poll closed please.

Thanks, TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 00:41, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

History
Hey, I did find the Tools tab thanks to Toxic. I would have found it thanks to you if you'd posted the reply in my Talk page. Just a little thing but bare it in mind. How else will I manage to reply to you if I don't know you sent me anything. Raadec 11:34, November 25, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 4
Hey, I'll start off by saying thank you for the work you've done over the week. And although I DO think the mainpage (in it's old form) is in need of improvements, I can't say I like your version. It is something we need to work on over time. I'm gonna revert to it it's old form for the time being.

Please don't take this the wrong way, I just think we need to spend some time thinking about it and for the time being, we'll stick with the old design.

Hope you understand. Raadec 22:07, December 2, 2010 (UTC)

P.S. Can you change the logo "Discover the Lost" to my "Quake Wiki" version. Again, this is something that needs alot of drafts before we get to one we like. But I gotta say the current one is rather poor. Thanks again mate.

Re:Mainpage
I don't see what's confusing about the current one. Your version is all bunched up which is ok when there is alot of information to get in, but half the page was taken up by Help pages. Now of course we can change that but other Wikis use spaces like that for regular updates, but we are based on Quake, and the last proper update we've had regarding Quake is QuakeLive is no longer a beta. It's not a modern name with new things happening around it. So in otherwords, there is no need for so many sections for words.

I don't want to peave you off, we need to work towards it. I don't hate your design and in the interest of working forwards on the mainpage design, I'm going to revert it back to your design. Reverting it back like I did was just backwards when we need to go forwards. I admit I have made a mistake. -- Raadec 09:52, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

gah! help.
When I reverted the mainpage back, I did some my own edits to it. Then i realised the background went stupid. Now I tired to redo my edits, and it's gone stupid again. I have no idea what I'm doing to do this. Sorry. And I can't revert it, because the Tools bar is also buggered.

Any idea what's going on? And can you fix it again, thanks.. Raadec 21:42, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Problem
Yeh, although for some reason.. Rich Text turns it self on and off on Mainpage. So sometimes it was rich text and others it was html.

All I am trying to change is some of the paragraphs and location paragraphs and the titles of the sections, and that went super wrong this mourning too. Raadec 21:49, December 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I didn't mean to delete the history bit, it just happened. All I am trying to do is use your design and do some of my own edits, and then see if it looks any good like. But everytime I make an edit, the background fucks up. I'm gonna try one final time. If it goes stupid again, I give up... Raadec 22:11, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Re:Problems
For a start, I would like the old introduction paragraph in place of the new. I don't think the bit about Wolf is needed since he has not been active in years.

I want to put the Create New Page text box under the intro and put some of the other News lines back in. Also I want to change the Forums section into Administator Section and list me, you and Toxic. Even though Shaleblade is also inactive, we should still include him since he is still the owner. I am really only acting-director with Toxic.

Tell me what you think and whether you can improve further on my ideas. --Raadec 22:28, December 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * News: Just the things that were listed on the old version of the main page.
 * Owners: I know that, the owner is Shaleblade because he adopted QuakeWiki. Wolf might be the founder but Shaleblade is the new owner and thus Wolf is no longer relevent. I am just saying that me and Toxic are acting-directors, since we are the only bCratz who are active.
 * Forums: Can you explain to me why you believe we need a section for Forums on the mainpage. As far as I can tell it is just a list of random talk pages. Unless its automated to list the most recent talk pages to be edited. Although that may be useful, I did reply to one of your edits on a talk page thanks to that Forum section, but you ain't replied, hmm?
 * Help: I kind of agree with you that a massive help section might help expand the community. But taking up 80% of the page is overkill. We need to water it down and put it in a smaller box maybe replace it with the polls. As you seem to have some idea for the future of polls, it will be ok to get rid of the polls for the time being.
 * You: I don't want to argue with you too much since you have much more experience with Wikis than me and thus you do know what your doing. Feel free to challenge me with any of my ideas you see as wrong or in need of changing. After all, my reason for being Admin is my extensive knowellege of Quake, not the presentation of the Wiki, which you are far more knowing of.

--Raadec 22:48, December 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * I am purely regarding the point that we as admins look after the Wiki. I'll admit that no one owns a Wiki is news to me but in a sence, Wikis do have owners, and they are the people who control it with administator 'powers'. Shaleblade owns this Wiki because he adopted it off the founder maybe (I don't know the full story there) but as bCratz, me and Toxic are in charge of the upkeep of the Wiki and brining in help such as your self.


 * Ofcourse it's not the same as owning your own website, as we are all part of the vast Wikia community.


 * I am looking forward to seeing these projects and how they form. --Raadec 23:57, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

What the hell!
For a start would you like to tell me what the hell has been going on and why no one notified me??? TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 14:07, December 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * Okay i've got your point. But just to say i've been active i've just been monitoring thats all. I'm just saying I like the front page but to me it looks like we are copying Quake live wiki. I'm sorry for not contacting you about changes but you have to admit you did not answer to my calls, especially on the job I asked of you. I have been a little busy at the moment due to personal problems which I did tell Raadec I just forgot to tell you too. One last thing is that I created the Quake Wars:Enemy Territory page just go look at it.


 * Thanks, TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 13:58, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 4
I changed the mainpage a bit, tell me what you think. The background and tools bar goes stupid as soon as I press Edit, so I can't avoid it. It must be something to do with your design as it never happened with the old one. --Raadec 16:28, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Response
Here:

A Job [Recent Activities]
Hey August, I got a job for you.

Could you put a recent activity box on the front page where i've put poll closed please.

Thanks, TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 00:41, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't get a response for two days so I struggled to figure out what to do. I managed it but I had to waste alot of time finding it.

Anyhows like I said before I like the idea even if it does look like some over wiki I've seen(who cares it's only my opinion) But could at least change the colour to suit the quake theme. Perhaps the same colour as the boxes, perhaps not. Whatever comes to your head.

Thanks, TeriffiedToxic Sanctifying all I hate 17:44, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 5
I already explained to you that the background goes to the side as soon as I press Edit, even before I make any edits or press Preview of Save. And I disabled Rich Text Editor yesturday so that has nothing to do with it. What I do know is before your design, this never happened and with your design, it does happen. That is why I am blaming your design, just going with the honest facts.

You're the one who wants to go forwards with the mainpage re-design and at the moment it's gone no further than how it was before you changed it. I am trying to go forwards and for reasons beyond my understanding, there is a problem with the Mainpage. Or maybe the Wiki, because as I write this, the background is to the side and as I edited anouther page, it did the same. But for some reason it sticks when an edit is saved on the Mainpage.

Like I said, I have not noticed this before your re-design on the mainpage, so yes, I am suspecting it as the source of the problem. If you could look over your changes, and try to find a reason that may lead us to sorting this problem out, that would be good.

Toxic is not saying you copied QuakeLiveWiki's mainpage, he is saying it looks like it. I have been looking at other Wikis for ideas to base our mainpage layout on and would like you to have a look at few when I have a better idea on what we should do.

As for your comment "never edit the main page again", it is rather hostile for someone who gets offended by the word "Hell" and even considers it a swear word. I have noticed you reverted my edits (I realise in an attempt to fix the problem) but that problem is still there, which means at the moment we can't do anything with the Mainpage. I allowed you to change the Mainpage because you made me realise it was needed to go forwards, something which is not happening... --Raadec 18:51, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I have said, I do not want to argue with you, since you have more experience thus you know what is best. But then again, only by challenging you will we get anywhere.


 * I have noticed that people seem to make a few edits and than disappear, and I do care. But QuakeWiki is not a popular Wiki. Before Shaleblade and then me and Toxic following a few months later, arrived, QuakeWiki was dead. I remember coming to QuakeWiki back in 2009 hoping to find loads of information, but it was in fact completely dead.


 * Yes indeed in the subsequent 18 months since, it has not gotten any more popular, but it has been vastly improved and we are arriving at a postion where we can start attacting a bigger fan base, something a year ago would have been impossible.


 * I didn't realise that old Signiture ""Raadec - Administrator and Co-Owner, I own you >:-)"" was still around, I made it as a stupid gay joke but never used it, atleast I don't think I did.


 * But as bCrat, I am part of a two-man team (Toxic too) who is to look after QuakeWiki, that is where my co-ownership comes from. I have never considered my self "head admin". And I WOULD NEVER consider using my 'powers' as admin to ban people, lock pages or de-sysoping admins in the attention of keeping the pages the way I want. I have never felt anywhere near close to the need to ban someone. There has been Poor Edits on this Wikia, but I give them warnings which have worked. I realise you are giving an example of a bad admin you might have worked under, but I want to make clear I have the complete intention of making this Wiki something to be marveled at along with its community, from the new comers to the sysops.


 * You must realise that Wikis need looking after, and that job is giving to the bCratz and Sysops.


 * And for the SECOND TIME, i never intended to delete the History Bit,  it deleted it self when I pressed Edit. I never even make a Edit before the problem occurs.


 * And Finally, I have thought up my very own design for the mainpage... it incorporates ideas from your design, but is more suited for this Wiki. Tell me when your finsihed with your tweaks, and then I'll have a go at my design.. and then we'll decide whether it is a step backwards or forwards. --Raadec 20:11, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Main Page 6
Please see this basic idea of my mainpage design. This is the best I could do as a rough guide. My full idea is to have the two side boxes narrow and the central box a bit wider. The narrow boxes would include the polls and forums.. whilst the central wide box would include the introduction, news and help.

Tell me what you think. --Raadec 21:16, December 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It would be the layout, and we could change the grey to black or a very dark shade so that the it contrasts better with the green lettering. It is a real step forwards that we can agree on something.


 * My design is a fushion between the old layout and the extra stuff you want. --Raadec 22:19, December 5, 2010 (UTC)