Thread:Deathstalker666/@comment-1496755-20171111143841/@comment-3547390-20180725134118

Oh goodie, so much for needing to avoid all of that. So you have the fun of both systems making it even more over-complicated.

As the years have gone on, I have gotten more reasons at least. I am too extroverted for introverts that hate talking and find it highly inefficient to bother with me, yet too introverted for extroverts as I feel they don't pay attention to a word I say and I get emotionally exhausted from people's presence. It ends up where I am pretty much cursed to be unhappy no matter what I try due to this conflict of interests.

This summarizes how I feel with most people; even those that still bother to talk to me instead of abandoning me due to being bored. It just feels like they don't want to talk. I have made attempts to disappear off various places, what ends up happening is that nobody even notices that I am gone when I am usually around every day. Or they will notice and begin to make jokes about how hilarious I am for the things I say, how I need help and that sort of thing.

My father is good in many ways, but the emotional is his weak point, and so he just never takes an interest beyond making sure I won't kill myself. If I am "happy", he "lets me do my thing" because he feels "I don't like talking". He just doesn't understand the emotional reasons. At least he cares, unlike my mother. I just want to matter, to serve actual purpose, and it feels like few even want to bother trying out of some supportive role. The problem with trying to be support is that you see yourself as the superior being, that spending time with me is more charity than anything.

I agree entirely. There was some weird change in music around the late 2000s. Being made in 2006 or later is usually a sign that it will be devoid of life, it will just be vapid and dead. Symphonic includes choirs not to enhance the song, but to rely on them. Gothic lost the feelings and now is mostly a dead genre anyway led by a pop band and a band with a Mexican woman singing about rats; of course with people assuming symphonic is gothic and that Evanescence is gothic metal. Note most genres were pretty generic in the past as well; death, black, and thrash come to mind. Regardless, there is certainly a lack of emotional intensity you would see in those earlier songs. The saddest thing is how people seem to eat it up, it is like nobody can tell the difference. 2001-2005 in particular seems to be a promising period. People are very insistent that the albums coming out now are the best the band put out and are the grand returns they have waited years for. This isn't without even touching all the new generic bands, but bands that once output quality of a much higher caliber. It isn't even nostalgia as I was going through it all at the same time, it just had a dropping off point.


 * Tristania in 2005 had a lot of emotional quality. It was about despair, torture, pain, and the emotions were powerful.
 * This is the same band in 2013. This is their "return to form" people sing songs of praise about. This song in particular is "one of their best". I feel like it is a sick joke, this is just a generic rock song. Listen to the consistent drum beat, the lack of interesting guitar riffs, and the dragging nature without real point.


 * Sirenia in 2002 was actually rather powerful and intense. They had cleaner vocals than something like Tristania, but it all worked in harmony.
 * 2016 is considered THE album in gothic metal these days. It feels so... static... and generic. This feels like a bland song with an annoying singer, a bad chorus, and just a lot of pointlessness.


 * After Forever from 2004. This is when they had intensity, were emotional. If this is the Nightwish we got when Floor Jansen joined, I would have loved it.
 * Just three years later, 2007. Note the sudden poppy style. This is what After Forever is remembered for. If you get someone who likes the band, they will just know this album. Mainly because they love Epica, a far worse band.
 * But the real spiritual successor would be this. Now gone are the melodies, instead we get something that feels like metalcore mixed with genericness on top of the 2007 style.


 * Nightwish in 2004 was mostly dying anyway, but the reason was Marco was a terrible singer. The songs he wasn't in were full of life.
 * Nightwish in 2015 released a 24 minute song people eat up. It drags. There are some folk-like parts, some monkeys, choirs... but none of it serves a purpose. Blame Uncle Scrooge.
 * And Tarja in 2016 is not making interesting stuff either. Note the background instruments. Note the background instruments of every recent song... they all sound similar, while the old stuff had distinctness.


 * Lacrimosa in 2001 was absolutely grandiose. The emotion is just awe-striking.
 * Lacrimosa in 2017 is still going pretty strong. Really one of the best bands out there, especially for maintaining quality. But it isn't the same as 2001, it is heavier and perhaps better for the metal crowd, but is also missing that sheer intensity.


 * MuTuM in 2004 was quite the good band. It wasn't as good as say, Tristania, but it was quite the exciting thing in its own right.
 * MuTuM in 2013 suddenly wishes to be Sirenia. My god are the singer's vocals bad. And the instruments just feel like fluff with no real substance.


 * Megaherz in 2004 was, curiously enough, exploring gothic overtones. It eats me alive that they didn't do more like this.
 * One album later in 2008 did this. Gone is the emotion. Instead we get generic music that attempts to repeat what they were doing prior to 2004, except without even the emotion of that stuff.


 * Saint Anger was also 2003. Metallica was back with aggression, but doing it in an emotionally intense way. The album is just filled with quality gems.
 * Metallica by 2016 was doing this. Wait... this is good. Except that, unlike Saint Anger, this is a unique track on an otherwise boring album. Also note it lacks the emotional intensity.
 * Unless somehow this sounds as good to you somehow and not just some boring rock riff with an atrocious chorus that is a far better representation of Metallica's normal output in 2016. Somehow this actually makes me feel sick.


 * Hypocrisy in 2005 was outputting one of the best death metal albums of all time. Note the variation of instruments and sheer intensity.
 * Hypocrisy in 2013 just bores me. How does this not sound like an extremely generic song off a very bland album?


 * When was Secret of the Runes released by Therion? 2001. They released a 3 hour overture in 2018, yet I couldn't enjoy a single song.


 * Bloodbath, 2004. Nuff said. It is good.
 * And Bloodbath in 2014 just bores me to tears.

I could go on too... the pattern is pretty consistent. There are of course some outliers, but it just seems like 2001-2005 was a better period for music than anything today. Most other bands that started after that period are already dead due to just quickly dropping in quality, like a spark that was quickly stunted out.

It is also good for showing you are dark and not someone to be messed with. "Look at the brutal music I listen to, it is all symbolic of how I feel inside. I hate people." It just feels so forced and contrived to make an image as opposed to actual quality. Of course, that is exactly what black metal is. Normally people who want "emotion" go there. I just can't see it, unless that emotion is just running out of toilet paper in the middle of a Norwegian woods during the middle of winter.

Draconian's first album is another good quality gem. Sadly they went very doom metal oriented after this (luckily they quickly recognized their mistake, but sadly they went more conventional and so had a more shaky discography). Great example of the difference between the two genres, the latter just drags. It feels like Black Sabbath riffs over and over while a death metal vocalist rambles on about hating humanity (only good band I can think of is Doom:VS, and that is tied highly to Draconian as well as includes a lot more death metal than the general doom sound). Good gothic metal, like Draconian, are far more emotionally intense.