Thread:Deathstalker666/@comment-1915529-20140121210201/@comment-3547390-20140202081856

Hey, whatever you think you can handle.

No. You can extract it all manually and have it destroy your Thief folder, or get a program to do it all automatically. Doing it manually means you have to compress your saves (it transfers saves around so you keep those from the original game as well as have all the slots for the FMS). There are about 5 FM loaders out there. One is outdated (Thief Loader), one is quite unstable (Modern Loader, never hear of this one being used), one is very popular (Dark Loader), and one is a bit more recent and in my opinion is the best (Garrettloader). If you want Garrettloader I can give you a link to it, the actual website has been down for some time and it will take some searching to find. Garrettloader also is the program that automatically fixes core problems and cutscenes if you set it up right. It is the only one that works with Thief 3.

The 5th one you should ignore as it is only for the NewDark engine, which we are trying to avoid. You set up a folder that you want to load the FMs (Garrettloader will basically walk you through it), then it is simply a matter of adding and playing them. It will all appear in a list, you select the name you want, press install, then press play. You load a new game and skip the Training Mission to access the FM.

Widescreen? Cutscenes? Sounds like you tried something unofficial... The only official patch is 1.18. Ignore ANYTHING about 1.19, it is an unofficial patch. How come you needed it here but not the first one? My computer stretches it pretty well, you couldn't even tell it wasn't widescreen.

Used a walkthrough (well, the actual walkthrough is broken so you have to dig various threads on the forum). That level apparently is one of the roughest around and it sounds like very few can solve it.

EDIT: I give up. That level is just frustrating, even after "completing" I had to wander aimlessly looking for loot. Not finding any after going through the level 3x more and looking in every niche, I am quite angry with the level and just want it to end. I wouldn't recommend that level unless you want a headache (the grammar is terrible and so therefore the clues make no sense). Still, if you think you are good and want a challenge then check out "The Mages Area". Don't say I didn't warn you and don't sue me for breaking your computer in frustration after 5 hours of wandering through the same area looking for a tiny button. This trumps the Keystone Tree by a tremendous amount.

Earlier that level nearly made me give up on even playing any more Thief. So that tells you how frustrating it was getting. The sad thing is that the actual puzzles, which is what really makes the level hard, became so easy after dealing with the stress of finding TRBs (and not finding 13 gold, not loot mind you as I got more than an adaquate enough).

But enough about my gripes. The next 2 levels are made by the person that created the best level of 1999. Hopefully they don't pull a Library sequel, but it does bode better if the person actually knows what they are doing.

EDITEDIT: While looking around at information for the level I bumped across info that led to me getting that piece of loot. Normally I don't use walkthroughs like this, but this level seems to hate me and I wanted to just have it completed.

I also started level 9 of JK and found the Concussion Rifle. So I guess I have the complete armory.