Thread:Deathstalker666/@comment-1915529-20140702204420/@comment-3547390-20141030211800

Exactly Raadec, exactly. Though human levels are what make Thief about being a thief, it is the supernatural levels of the first game that show the break from the norm. I am a rare breed of person that actually enjoyed Escape and finds it better than Assassins.

You are exactly right once more Raadec. You are becoming rather intellectual on the world of Thief. The Hammerites, as you said, would have created computers and other such pieces of technology (think to their security cameras and other such devices, which were made to help them whilst the Mechanists were the ones to create turrets and children to destroy others).

It was definitely a risk to put someone like Garrett into their group. When you want to remain as secret as the Keepers, you can imagine they don't often receive new members. You also assume that they knew the entire story from the beginning, which of course is totally possible due to it all being written in prophecy. But, as also said in that last quote, it was the Trickster's own choice that brought about his downfall. They just aligned the pieces, whilst it was the job of the pawns to follow their fate.

Karras is rather egotistical, believing himself to be his own perfect image. The race that was to survive the humans had his face and voice. Similar to the story of the Bible, he created his children in his own image. He had a gift, a skill, but he used that skill to simply boost his own image to the point where he believed himself to be more powerful than the Trickster (he even says this in Soulforge).

The Trickster was worried of the world becoming like you said, without organic life. Thief 2 has all of the trees dying. The Trickster felt that even Thief 1 was going a bit too far, humans were hiding in their houses and thus safe from the natural world. He was upset because he felt his power was being mocked, that he had to bring destruction in order to put fear into the heart of man so that they might recognize him once more. Back when man took fur and fang they probably worshiped the Trickster, but then the Builder gave them the hammer and with it they constructed a method whereby to shun the Trickster. The Trickster's goal was simply to have what all Gods desire, praise and to be recognized. You can imagine the Builder doing the same thing if the world had taken a turn for the organic.

Yeah, that is the thing about Dark Forces and Jedi Knight. They are stories whereby you see the actions, but they leave no mystery. Thief on the other hand could have papers written about it evaluating the world due to a lot of subtleness and whatnot. You even say it yourself, it is debatable due to us receiving but simple clues.

Think of the character of Garrett. He is a thief, a profession that is evil as it is stealing from others for his own selfish desires. Garrett is hard headed, brash, and has somewhat of an ego himself. Yet for all of this, he is considered good because he saves the world. Thinking of his reasoning in the Dark Project, his motivation for saving the world was simply revenge. Garrett simply wanted to get back at the one who ripped out his eye by using deception and treachery himself. Similarly, in Thief 2, his main rationale (until the very end) was to get back at the people that kicked him out of his house. Garrett is the type that will hurt others by stealing from them, while covering his own nose by hurting those that try to mess with him. The previous sentence could also describe a mob boss, someone who isn't exactly a good guy. So even though Garrett is the protagonist and has good in him, there is a lot to him that could be seen as bad.

Yes, you apparently forgot that detail. Sorry if I am covering ground before you are seeing it.

2 Hammer Haunts without dying? You are making progress. Did you fight them face to face? I also believe that Thief 1 Haunts are a lot worse than Thief 2, even if the latter have a larger range and deal more damage.

Heh, of course you would insist on trying to kill somebody. You have to learn to break free of that handicap to get through Expert mode. I have done Iron games where I have not killed an Apebeast (I didn't realize that you could blackjack Bugbeasts at the time or that it would make my life easier by causing less noise :P).

As I said before Dominus, I plan on trying it down the line. I definitely don't want to spoil it before playing it.