Thread:Vorknkx/@comment-1915529-20120523190003/@comment-3547390-20120528162610

Especially since zDoom can play them to be like the vanilla besides with less limitations (it's how I used play Doom after beating it on Chocolate).

Doom II had even stronger monsters, I don't know if you ever touched it. The Mancubus and the Arch Vile come to mind. Hexen runs on the Doom engine as well, so might be comparible to Doom 2 (even tougher).

Also, I have heard there is a Heretic II, don't know what that's all about...