Thread:Deathstalker666/@comment-1915529-20140221183807/@comment-3547390-20140514083924

Uh... I think that happened with Empire. Han went out into the middle of a snowstorm when the rest of the Rebels gave up to rescue his friend. So I don't think Luke got much of an increased friendship with Han. In fact, Luke was barely around the other cast except a little bit at the start of Endor before the battle and the celebration. The reunion was good but ruined by a whole plotline involving imprisoning Luke's friends, getting thrown into a Rancor pit and forced to face the beast, and somehow having it all figured out so that R2 just happened to be on the bridge as a waiter droid. Cool look with awesome 'splosions, yet it doesn't make much sense when you look at it from a distance. Ah, the ultimate fanboy debate about Star Wars. I just don't see the film as good as Empire.

Actually, I completely rethought it and you are right. Hayden makes no sense and not for the reasons you mentioned. Look at Ben and Yoda, their force spirits are still old when they are dead. This means that your force ghost basically captures your appearance in death. But when Anakin died it was on the Death Star II. By having Hayden, it basically shows that Anakin didn't redeem himself and that he died when he became seduced by the dark side. Ben had said he had died, so he wasn't wrong from a certain point of view. But by putting Hayden, it proves to the audience that he wasn't redeemed aboard the Death Star and that he thus died before Luke was born. Sebastian Shaw, the same dude who played Vader in the suit when his mask was taken off, proved that he was redeemed. So basically it changes a major plot point.

So is Palpatine's undoing his lack of perception into the future? That by believing the movie to be complete upon reaching theaters he didn't realize that the Rebels would get Lucas to change the storyline with Vader's "noo". Maybe Vader could see into the future and he just wanted to stop saying "no" over and over. He was a hostage! He didn't redeem himself! See, Lucas was right! Well, until Hayden is under the mask (they are probably waiting for him to mature a bit, say another ten or twenty years of edits down the road).

I have never seen CGI Yoda if the originals are still the puppet. I think it was based on the fact that it didn't look fake like R2's pop-up panels. It is good that the originals remain, I wouldn't want them changd as it probably would end up looking rediculous.